• Conversation started December 7, 2011
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11:14pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
Hoi Richard,
I heard the excerpt of Radio Schreber: Soliq/Schizioph Voices and
found it excellent. Then looked into Sound Threshold for the whole
piece (and resonance 104 FM-in a search for archives) -alas no joy.
Is there a version of the whole piece? If so, what’s the link? At the
moment trying to navigate and write a number of portions of the my
text into sound and vision etc trying to keep good faith with multimedia,
psychoanalytic, and lingual architecture of the ‘visual and
sound’ of Judge Schreber’s delusional and hallucinatory experience.
Difficult .But love it/him…
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• December 8, 2011
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3:59pm
Richard Crow
no “whole” “version” of the piece – true to the nature of the work it
will always be spliting, fragmenting, sounds good what you are
working on, perhaps we should chat via skype? after the 14th i can
dedicate some time
as said i am remixing certain sections, and at present working on the
sonnestein (Devils castle) material
not sure when that will be up on the italian blog
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5:07pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
that would be great. Me too…true to the Natural Order (not heard or
seen from the forecourt-er,sorry) still trying to put all the man’s
different experiences into one continuous understandable story (in
spite of the walls in space/time boundaries or a psychotic lack of
them) to make sense of the chaos. Sonnestrein-right…you’ve trod
there…that material must be interesting. I am sure you’ve read Eric
Santners socio-historical (+symbolic investiture) take on it all!
Brilliant
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• December 9, 2011
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5:48pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
Richard I have Skype installed. Name: kzclipsy -whats yours so I
can add you as a contact. Thank you
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• December 14, 2011
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6:48pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
this project could go on -for 1,2, 8 hrs-even a weekend! Nah, maybe
not -just a ‘thought’. Brilliant minds have been fascinated with it for
years! (if not under a hundred)..maybe not just sound/voices but
other sensory thingies-interventions with delimiting boundaries
etc.Mm -Schreber’s psychotic fragmented senses and fractured
communications giving, ‘voluptiousness’ and birth, to works which
ARTify, psycholog’ise’, Lacananise et al, psychotheopathologise
(Prof. Santner) or even make for some tragic, weird romance (poor
Sabina and DPS-miscarriages etc) about paranoid schizophrenia
with transexual overtones and childhood trauma…..
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• December 15, 2011
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3:06pm
Richard Crow
skype : crow45, i’ll be around later tonight…along with the
interferences ps yes i like the eight hours idea
more later
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4:35pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
Drat and double drat…very difficult tonight…tomorrow possible at
all? any time after 3. Now THAT is an interference (and nothing to
do with the miracle of completing a linguistic interference i jest-well
its been one of them days
yes….more then or later
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6:46pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
i WILL make time now-will leave skype on for 5 mins (time now
6.46)-otherwise at a more convenient time for you. Hope you get
this
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9:03pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
Now on skype..but hang on..having a bit of trouble with the signing
in..now backto skype
ok now
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• December 16, 2011
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10:07am
Kevin Zdaniecki
Thank you. You are kind.
The ‘Waste’ is to my chagin. I am no artist. O well, ‘wait and see’ is
better than an absolute “no”. I wanted to talk about inteferences to
Weldungarbeit(?), sonic bridges etc.to approch the voices in the text.
Not merely as an academic clinician.So much more to make
manifest-i just could’nt seem to get these across. Eitherway when I
have a more focus and clear understanding of text/performance I
hope we’ll contact again. Sincerely
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• December 16, 2011
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3:47pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
I REALLY did’t think I would be sending another message in such
near future (understandably it felt a little like ‘don’t call us..we’ll call
you??’-don’t worry its ok!).Following your good advice today i was
made aware of an empty old mental health building in Broomfiels,
Essex (a sonnestein??)-i must ring to check that out. Even so it
seems the only sources of funding to rent the place would be via the
Arts Council (now reducing funding by 100%!!!), independent
monies or…blowed if I know! It might be argued that it was
educational hence possibly facilitative of …wait for it..wellbeing
(don’t laugh richard). Eitherway, have you got any suggestions of
how to move forward.
What I’m writing does necessitate a Radio Screber Channel -the
Transexual Saviour’s channel-in each room or level. And double
carefully phased echoing (and interlapping of contents) of the
internal voices-perhaps the externally broad casted voices and piano
snippets-almost randomly attuned to the visual hallucinations
(e.g.talking birds, rays from son, birds defaeciating corpses) or the
even the negatives of them! All falling within the Other Worldliness
of the linguistics (albeit psychotically fractured and fragmented)
used in the text, the detailled ‘god’ structure, Using cardboard boxes
could be a start in changing and delimiting space could’nt they. Just
noticed the length of message…enough for now. I won’t disturb you
again -in the near future without something FAR more concrete –
SORRY!
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• December 17, 2011
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10:01am
Kevin Zdaniecki
PS heard piece re: talk at the freud museum. succint and
comprehensive! pity i missed that…drat. o well
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• December 22, 2011
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5:41pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
heard it with the help of a friend. any ideas of how to get protocol
items associated with a relevant program for free presentations and
videos i.e. to enable free itunes on my Linux? (the other computer
has Ubuntu)…maybe this is a case of too much work and not enough
techno making kevin very dull
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• December 23, 2011
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12:15am
Kevin Zdaniecki
sorry, silly question
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• December 25, 2011
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2:44pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
I TRUELY wish you a fantastic day with bags of laughter and
smiles, good sharing, conversation that lights your fire, plenty of
tasty morsels, drinkies (whatever does you good), amazingly good
thoughts and memories .My dear friend of the imagination. Good
Winter Solstice to all.And, of course, happy new year days to
come.Hope the down days are few with as little tradgedy, sadness,
depressive delusions as possible.I’ve a feeling that 2012 is going to
be good-in spite of what some say or perform. You’re quite sone man
who I greatly value and respect as a Facebook friend. Yor links are
excellent and speak volumes! Thank you for your time in sharing.So
Shine On Crazy Diamond.
Blessings to you and those you love
Try not to work too hard with your abudant energy.
kevin
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• January 6, 2012
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11:18am
Kevin Zdaniecki
I stole a post to share (Anna Teressa Sheer)..sorry Richard.
Plagiarism is usually not my thing but I just like it -it fits the time
right now! Hope all goes well with you all
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• January 17, 2012
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3:27pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
Excited by de Certeau’s (the jesuit given time off to think?). I am
sure your very aware of http://www.soundthreshold.org/download/
decerteau_spatial.pdf
-amazing indeed!
Now i’ve got to a point in the play where Soul (DPS) is not walking
thro’ the Institutes (ROT??) maze of corridors and signposted
‘crossroads’ desperate to find the Imaginary Hospital after his
encounter with a transexual God who seeks to voluptuously ‘unman’
and impregnate him after changing his bodily gender (and eventually
sex organs-he wishes) to change the faults in big G’s original social
creation. Soul needs to manipulate this such that God is the
consumer-so Soul can then control what is socially controlling him.
Hence the Fathers plan to repopulate to eventual National Rational
Socialism is foiled! “Gotcha” voices DFS but THEN THE VOICES
and THE meaningful symphony of noises (doors creaking,strings
breaking, sounds of the everyday practice of the Wounded Nurses (I
know Richard-its an obvious plagiarism of the brilliant work of
another-better watch that!) everyday practices of their work in this
Imaginary Hospital (sorry- another plagiarism from you!). But Soul
chooses the creeking oak door to the appeals court to run through. ” !
wish to appeal. With respect and meaning no harm its just your fools
and tools of your
trade. But he’s speaking through the slowed down, echoing, derailled
voices which ask him to f**k the judges (Kirsy Kant, Jacquii
Derrida, Willamena Wiitgenstein and Nora Batty) and sack his
attorney Certeau. In this strange court room it was a like being in a
Whitechapel Cafe-so many voices -so many cynical greetings- so
many distorted voices and sounds. He really had to concentrate…but
moved to the exit door to another part of the Institute with more sign
posts to choose from but…..
Click to access decerteau_spatial.pdf
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3:53pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
As you can obviously see Richard I need help with the sounds,the
voices, the acting, the physical and linguistic architecture…the
higher German, how and when to represent Tanhausen and
Giovanni…its got to be when the hell of perpetual pleasure (meant
only for the Gods) can be escaped fom. Back to his Fathers teaching
of when pleasure is allowed…through work, no idleness, onle
knowlege passed on by false status and the unacceptable horror of
the fallacy of when and who by authorisation is believed to be valid.
In fact like DPS I’m stuck Sorry I write all this – I really hope I’m not
wasting your time even to read it. I’m thinking as an analyst. I can’t
approach it as an artist simply because I am not one (an artist that is)
Just thought via this very small snippit where I am with it all. O
well, to use your words its a matter of ‘wait and see’. Thanks anyway
– busy now. Suggestions apart from ‘give up’ always more than
welcome!!
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• February 1, 2012
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10:32pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
Thanks for the ROT group Richard. Your Scheber post was very
good
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• February 13, 2012
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6:17pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
UPDATE (if interested)
Books getting on completion. Shreber Scholar said he’d edit it.
Fictional/non-fictional. Play concept revision next/now.Audacity’s
Good. Logistics come later!! Mm sonics with Audacity reading for
‘starters’ inc. Which, What fits/others ideas (Ideas??). Bags has been
written,
and some GREAT movies made, BUT never a play experience (as
far as I Know). To include ? political (fascist/capitalistic)
persecution, micro (family) persecution-meso/maga power dynamics
(in social/political/myth-monotheistic transparency’ People ARN’T
paranoid but are/feel persecuted (whats the name of some one who
has not been called paranoid, does not feel/know they’re persecuted
BUT ARE? – can’t think of one word to cover it? Bonne chance ami.
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• February 14, 2012
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2:37pm
Richard Crow
sounds good
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• February 23, 2012
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6:44pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
keira knightly?-HA! More like Emilia Fox as Sabina in The Soul
Keeper (prendimi l’anima by Roberto Faenza)
sorry, if you’re interested….
(it’s honestly a pity I can’t speak Italian)
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• February 29, 2012
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7:00pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
Did you watch prendimi l’amina. Better (in terms of the mulitude of
femine archetypes) is Ich Heiss Sabina Spielrein-based on her
arcived diaries etc given and published by Aldo Carotenuto.
Spielrein could well have been the one-THE pioneer of
Psychoanaysis-the true anima and puioneer of Psycho. Analysis. Any
actress-of good or of rot- must invoke the correct archetype
crystalizations. Including the abused man looking for his mother (or
father) in another man (or father) -so much for the all to amateurish
interpretation of the far to often misunderstood castration complexas
in Schrebers case and his need for wanting to be a woman (his
own absent therby abusive mother). Not to mention Moritz -the
masochist and tyrannical depressive with suicidal destruction just
under the surface! NOW TO EXPRESS THIS IN SHREBER’S
SYMTOMS!!
PS “Did you know?” that it was that wonderful lover of excess
pleasure and anything volupturous-Otto Gross that wrote an analytic
paper on The Schreber Case well BEFORE Freud!!!! A bit of an
academic hush-hush job ‘old chap’-I mean he was/is rather a disgrace
to Psychoanalysis/ts. That would never do!! But Gross’s mind was
far better (albeit coccained/morphined) than Jung’s ever was!! But he
was’t a christian..woops.
Eitherway your sonic representations of Schrebers so called paranoid
schizophrenic madness are very good I feel. Very good Artistic
description of symtoms-but as a psychologist/analyticly oriented
clinician writer ( I, to my chagrin, am not an artist) search blindly for
what can heal rather than merely describe or make relevant. The
relationship between the two can have a wonderfuly beautiful,
frightening/horriffic shocking (almost humerous) and excitingly
volupturous nuanced symmetry. Thats why I love your work of/and
the Inst. of ROT (Nor. by Nor. West?) Strange though Spilreins
paper on Destruction as a cause of Being- the destruction of the “I”
as it becomes/dissoves into a crystalline form in a “We” (mmmmethinks
a Rotten Passage to Knowledge-spose that depends) comes
to mind here. To be simple-surely not a ’cause’ but more a natural
transformation like the death and fall of a leaf…er or some rubbish
like that…But my play needs what you good people artists have to
offer. It needs time-not merely to focus on one person but all those
responsible for the dynamic…HECK…this is a real rant…I really
apologise-I only wanted to ask about a link to a trailer for the miost
recent film about DPS…or is to view anywhere? Again SINCERE
and honest apologies-I suppose I should delete it or not send it-it
probably won’t really be read anyway….but I don’t think I will delete
it…and I’ll send it and be damed..Take good care ‘my friend of the
imagination’
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• February 29, 2012
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11:34pm
Richard Crow
thanks for brave insights as ever…yes need to looka t otto gross….
why don t you present it the play on resonance fm , i have contacts
there
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1:47am
Kevin Zdaniecki
I want to present each member of the family-the mother ,the father,
the brother the 2 sisters (1 theres hardly anything about – an invisible
doll shape or some such simplistic rubbish) as watching Daniel
being punished/abused AND Daniel himself watching the same sort
of things happening to his brothers and sisters. The mother just
standing and watching within her own guilt ridden, sado-masochistic
eyes whose God-the Father Moritz-symbolises the identification
with her own father (all a bit of a ‘big’ MAYBE-I know-theres no
historical evidence about her or her husband Moritz’s family
dynamics. But from the far more than intuitive guesswork his
masochism AND narcissism must have precipitated and remained
rigidly untransformed due to the family/social values and belief
systems at that time. Importantly Moritz’s need to manipulate and
control(related to his own predisposition to borderline delusional
psychosis (look I really don’t like labels per se either!!)-for the
greater good OF COURSE/ I torture you because I love you and
God’s gift of HUMANITY).But unfortunately Judge Schreber had a
perculiarly high intellectual intelligence and sensed how ROTTEN
family,society, law values were-for the most part. Moreover he
wanted (in the play) to let the bird out of the cage and get it
volupuosly whistling!!!! The search for a mother IN the father.
Perhaps he also was frightened that his father would commit suicide
if he did’nt obey him AND the guilt Daniel Paul would feel if his
father did i.e.”its all my fault” especially losing an essential love
‘object’.
Anyway, thats just a little bit of the possible pathology. What is
essential is for the play to make crystal clear that his ‘body’
symptoms,delusions,hallucinations (voices/distortions/visual)
WERE SYMBOLIC….of persecution by the family, by society and
its taboos, by an Aryian culture. To this end sit a guy in a cafe by a
table with a skull called Godot (or Godfry?) sitting opposite a male
crossdresser carrying a log thats both a reciever and a transmitter, a
Chief Superindent of police from the castle at Sunnystein -on- Sea
(mm-ok whatever) Whose just ‘nicked’ a fella calling himself Marx
Hegel who recently escaped from an endlessly claustrophobic place
called Eternity. A waitresses called Sabina and Soleme, a bar man
called Judith, a jukebox that keeps getting stuck on a track by
Leonard Cohen but the club being filled with ‘music’ sonics that
change in sympathy with DCP’s thoughts, other tables with Freud, a
couple of socalled ‘wounded’ nurses and a chap in a bear skin called
Chiron who insists punks are not dead (:’o ) Persephone Googleheim
is sitting with Kore the dwarf and his father Faust standing behind
Otto Mesopheles Gross who keeps blowing kisses at the Judge
whilst mouthing the words in Italian meaning ‘don’t supress a thing!’
Another table where Fanny Foucault, Loony Lacan, Lingo Chomsky,
are hotly arguing about whose turn it is to buy the ROTwine and
why they have such an enormously obvious primordial oedipal
power struggle problem. Upstairs in this club (the Krazy But Zexy
Kommunist Klub-soory I ‘pinched’ that excellent phrase to-sorry you
good artists- kay,you and many,many others but that i did is really
not relevant) is a Court Room (next to an Imaginary Hospital Cure
out patients department-the CURE coming in phases of
INDIVIDUATION) where the Judge will plead for his symbolic
madness to be understood and not dismissed and to be given his
pardon-all the presiding Judges are feminine archetype
Actually all of this is very maleable and there’s a lot of sonics and
Wagner with whole sections of prose from the Memoirs. But the
alchemy of making the destructive, Thanotic, Soul Murder transform
into something symbolically made of gold…well thats just the
beginning. Don’t forget the log radio…..
I know it seems like rubbish-I think I’ll start a rewrite tomorrow-but
each scene is about events in each of the important characters lives
and interweaved in such away that they all come to be in this cafe
Klub…blah, blah, blah. Believe me its not as boringly simplistic as it
sounds…
And yes -why not-a RADIO PLAY-AHA!!! Brilliant idea-I’ll work
on that!-Why not an ongoing serial….mmm let me think…..
Ps Otto Gross’s stuff is worth reading I’m told-he was’nt just the drug
soaked twat that he’s made out to be -his story is tragic
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Kevin Zdaniecki
WOW the more I think about it -it really transforms things. Thank
you so much Mr C……
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• March 1, 2012
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8:19pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
Mm Of interest maybe: Zonnestein was called Heilenstalt (how
fitting!)Started out as a Fortress-became a jailhouse -then a
sanatorium (especially for the rich Germans around Saxony that
were considered a criminally anti-social or threat etc). DPS COULD
have choosen to go somewhere else-‘talked’ into it by his wife
(maybe adversely effected from so many still births) and Dr Guiddo
Weber-the guy that would have found it costly to give him his
freedom. But Schreber showed not only symtomatic symbolism but
very clever, an artistic intelligent and insightful (apparent in his
explainations of his own pathology) and his appeal (in the same high
court that he was Senatspresident for a time) hit on a legal loop hole
that he found(i.e under what precise conditions can a person
involuntarily be kept from his freedom-and used his memoirs to do
it!). The ‘system’ represented by Weber (who wanted to keep him
there for life), his wife and the law certainly seemed to be ‘against’
him. Does’nt help ones paranoia!! Same thing happened to Otto
Gross (mothers boy??)-a bright fella ended up in an alley way (2 a
warehouse) collapsed from starvation, or whatever, in Berlin. I
recommend you read deeply about it e.g.by Henry (Zvi) Lothane
AND others!! NB perhaps by being a woman he could help his
wife(to whom he felt a lot of affection for) by giving birth to a son
instead of putting her through more misery-well just ba thought.
Schreber was an OK sort of fella really (methinks) and really good at
chess!!! I even wonder whether or not he had erotic feelings for Paul
Fleishig at all!! But
‘The Schreber Case’ is PIVOTAL and relevant today in so many
ways. Just look at that horrific castle Sonnestein and Hitler’s T4
beginning the genocide!!!! (Ref:Schreber: My Germany..etc..Eric
Santner). Anyway I am really sorry to bother you again -I’ll avoid
doing that again!!
I wrote far,far to much yesterday and now but I really do feel
passion for this project. Your Radio Schreber-BRILLIANT!! Thank
you for doing it!!
PS I looked into Resonance 104.4FM today and Sound Thresholdsome
beautiful and brave pieces.
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Kevin Zdaniecki
PPS Did’t you get a really eerie feel from Sonnestein? I BET!!!!
Surprise, surprise….
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• April 11, 2012
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3:12pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
Hooi Richard This might be worth considering. I’ve chatted with
Morty(expert on Schreber) and Emmy (Prof. v. Deuzen-a
BRILLIANT woman-existentialist). She asked if I might consider a
lecture-apparently I think she feels Shreber is too specialised for
what she wants-she runs The New School of Existential
Psychotherapy-a VERY AWARE lovelly lady and artist- she’s
worked in French asylums with “shizophrenics” etc etc. But she did
give me an opening into what I understand is called Antony Stadlens
Inner Circle …lectures, presentations etc in London…PLEASE let me
know if your interested-in combining on such a project-then I’ll
email him If not …thats Ok…sorry for bothering you. I’m playing
with video stuff (for a transformation of the book (HA! more like a
trilogy)) perhaps with a sound/sonic track…. but my inabilities are
really frustrating me!!!!Surprise, Surprise!!I’m no artist or techno
geek…. psychology/ analysis is my thing. Love it. Hope to hear from
you ….whenever you find time or whatever…
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• April 12, 2012
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6:04pm
Richard Crow
hi there
, interesting…yes i remember this inner circle thing from last year
when Zvi Lothane was in town, and i was curious although the price
to attend seems very high ! http://anthonystadlen.blogspot.co.uk/
2010/03/daniel-paul-schreber-centenary.html, i couldnt make it (as I
was in Venice biennalle with Lucia Farinati) I believe Ivan Ward
(from Freud Museum) went as he knows Hans Israelis, and Zvi
Lothane mentioned my Radio Schreber piece in glowing terms ! My
question is would we get paid for presenting ? in these days of
precarity ….
Existential Psychotherapy & Inner Circle Seminars: Israels,
Lothane, Schatzman conduct: Locked Up. 3
anthonystadlen.blogspot.comAnthony Stadlen practises his original
form of existential psychoanalysis (existential psychotherapy,
Daseinsanalysis) and existential family analysis (existential family
therapy). He also supervises and teaches psychotherapy, and
researches its history. Since 1996 he has convened the Inner Circle
S…
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Kevin Zdaniecki
Thats the point exactly….PAYMENT for our work!!! But. I’ll e-mail
him and find out what he has to say. (i) did you good people get paid
for the “Freud Museum/ Sonnestein” gig? If so we’ve got a good
case to talk about the possibility of “dosh innit” etc and (ii) As this
could be a great venue for discussion with an exciting exchange of
ideas from the brilliant analysts /artists that may attend, I feel this
could be a good place to open the opportunitry for a funded UK
workshop/video or stage play/paticipation in presented work and
venues over A WEEKEND! maybe. Precarity -agreed, but depending
on the quality and relevance of content……well that’s all a tad
obvious!!! I’ll contact Morty Schatzman (he knows Zvi Lothane, as
well as Dinnage and Hans Istraels I believe) or go and see him-see
what he says. Of course Zvi (Henry I a I am etc) Lothane
remmembered your Radio Schreber-it is damned BRILLIANT-ever
thought about using it within the Imaginary Hospital?? (iii) Emmy
said (Prof
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7:56pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
contd……. van Deuzen) did say mention her and Morty in the initial
email. First, perhaps, if I may I’ll mention (my almost insignificant)
then your input to date then perhaps see what we can come up withone
of the problems being, as I said, your an artist and I’m not!
Eitherway if you wish to add anything to this initial message please
let me know. By the by may I mention your name? As far as i can
make out the potentiality of a springboard for conveying our
perceptions of this case et al is more than possible! Maybe not- just
have to wait and see! But first things first- how to put this email???
Any ideas………
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• May 5, 2012
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2:27pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
Re: Inner Circle Emailing-Book editing now-the play (living
between his horrors of madness and his so called sanity)-set within ‘a
today’ -gives me sonund problems-I’m not an artist (sonics etc) I
can’t see/hear it in pragmatic terms. Point is -what do you know of
pschoanalytic phenemenological ‘stuff’ Whats your take-where does
Radio Schreber go (‘decriptive’ I/we know)? Why are you interested
in it apart from that? What do his experiences mean/say about you
Richard? Silly questions-but it will help the direction(the point of) of
the ‘fluchtige hingemacten’ (‘Schreberianism’) interaction of
presentation or whatever. I’d love to be aware of that
before….Simply-why are bothering to do wat you’ve done or will
do?
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4:51pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
There’s little doubt Paul wanted to be famous and widely read. His
Memoirs tesified to this (thanks to Sigmund). He did become
known- but the price? Apart from breaking the architecture of what
we think and percieve of what we assume/taught about reality (only
perhaps understood in an Imaginary Hospital or Imaginary Asylum);
apart from seeing the walls of time and being (who we think we are
or our socalled meaning) or the vortex’s of time AND living in the
resultant twilight existence between madness and sanity-where all
dissolves in a vitreous solution and transformed (or crystalised ) into
another stucture (within the confines of sound, social beliefs/
education (taught by, more or less, Institutions of Rot) and politics
(ultra right or anarchy-whats would the difference be for Paul’s
suffering). I can sense how sonic and narrative presentation might if
carefully done COULD expose not only the phenonema but the
familiy structure” household totalitarianism-to quote Morty” (as an
ideological follow through of Ronnie Laing’s ideas (Laing-that self
styled guru of schizophrenia) of dangerous patriachal family
dynamics (morals, lust, jealousy, emotional abuse/blackmail etc in
the name of love,…et al). Its not just Paul, or an appeals court etc
that has to be portayed (with sonics and narratives (however) but
that dictator MORITZ!! How could his inevitable very deep
depression and isolation be presented? Don’t forget the suicidal son,
the daughters, under the thumb mother, female houshold ‘nurses’!
AND what about the adopted daughter-a possible love child of
Sarina and Fleishig (NB Flehigs photo by Sab’s bed!) Being treated
in the asylum exactly like his father abused him! His wife not
comming to see him! NO WONDER he thought there waqs a
conspiracy going on! To produce all of that using your brilliant
artistic sound approach (+ in depth, well informed, understanding
narrative-not simply a take from ‘down under’ all be that brilliant and
‘all there’ -would require AT LEAST a week end with several Actsand
emphasis on the everday living politics of today (as a
cmmulation of money/capitalistic human values, elitism eg
intellectualism/art (as more than neccessary) money spinning, power
etc etc etc. Carefully geared change via a sort of anarchism if you
like. Felt I wanted to say this to you-its pretty simplistic and obvious
stuff Richard…I now. But I will let yo know as to the outcome of the
excahange with the inner circle-and with you making your mark as a
Scheberian artist…something interesting is going to come of this ..I
hope..no belay that, I know.. it will
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• May 18, 2012
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1:42pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
RIGHT!…end of my procrastination! Now Action!!! Book -tick.
Massive changes for play project however!.Listened to your Radio
Schreber VERY carefully! Quite brilliant -and for me promising.For
play I want to make video to sync in with audacity dialogues I’m
working on. A lot is the Memoirs verbatim..but with twists in effects.
Its really hard work-its all new for me! Here and Now… I have to get
far more ideas. Paul looking out of a window (eyes closed)
communicating with the Rays-or looking at the cracks in the wall of
‘his sell’ with white light – ‘the voices’ becoming more and more
distinct (?cafe cackles?)/gods special language/ his transvestite
experiences-copulating with god/ screams of Sabina during still birth
(his guilt-failure??- maybe a crisis of meaning of too much meaning
vs validity of values) eg as in Institutional ROT-totalitarian family
structure or university faculties (esp. law or psychiatry)?/ Eitherway
its the distortion or representation of the sound in his head-of the
rays, of his piano, of the trees ,the birds. of the WRITING DOWN
machine. Help! Anyway, then say hey boys and girls this is not ony
how I see it but what I want to emphasize- then actors/actresses who
can get into it! It COULD be dangerous for a borderline disturbed
person to engage in I suppose. Anyway looking for an old asylum
with atmosphere to do this initial video-after that…well first things
first. Any apps you could recommend. The camera you’ve got now
looks very interesting…but expensive no doubt. Resonance radio you
mentioned?? Could any of this be fused somehow to an Imaginary
Hospital?? or Imaginary Hospital Radio Station?? IF you have any
inclination or time it would be good if you could get back… or
whatever. That reminds me… must contact the ‘fella’ at Inner Circle.
Till later I hope Richard.
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• May 19, 2012
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10:54pm
Richard Crow
always interesting to hear your ideas..if i dont reply its because i am
thinking, you should do a podcast on all this, i can pass on some
sounds to you at some point, i am completely broke now so have to
really look at some jobs, or gigs , there is a opportunity to go to
spain to do a workshop on artaud lets see
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• May 20, 2012
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11:06am
Kevin Zdaniecki
Great…spain sounds good!! Do you mean a podcast with view to
getting folks interested (specifics??)/a sound-verbal presentation or
documentary of sorts/a marketing stategy ( I CANNOT ABIDE
marketiing people-they should all be recommended for assisted (if
assistance needed)suicide on the NHS! and stuff). Mind you if thats
the way to put your ideas out or/and earn a living so be it-On 2nd
thoughts selling your soul (reverse Faust??)- or ‘soul murder’- to the
Pimps of Capital as so many good (artistic) workers do (motivation
for of fame or in vogue-infamy cannot be discounted!). Like
psychoanalysts or psychotherapists- the nihilistic whores of mental
health if you will. Selling their talent for a ‘pocket full’ of dreams of
a resolution to madness, delusions and a sociably acceptable DSM
IV/V diagnosis! Pardon monsieur Richard-getting a bit carried away
here-early morning and all that. Anyway I’ve started a few tracks on
on audacity of the Memoirs (used a perfect track-Nuits and Cinque
Rechants (I-V Group Vocal De France, by M. Tranchant and co.-
EXCELLENTstuff!!!!!-well its music to my ears) JUst as
background to DPS Memoirs/appeal? You know something Richard
it was during this BIT of work that I really began to believe that his
adopted daughter was in fact fathered between Sabrina and Fleishig.
I mean it fits-large amount of documents in the memoirs taken out or
missing-Fleishig’s photo by her bed-her abadomant of Paul when he
was in the asylum (medical advice?)-her deep respect (and anger!)
with Fleishig- I mean so little is known about her! I suppose its
neither here nor there really but it seems she was not as good a
mother as DPS was father!Much less emotionally attached to her
daughter than the childs ‘loving, kind’ father. PLEASE keep that
under your hat its only an ubsistantiated idea!
Back to podcasting-where do you begin? Which app. (thats possibly
open source) if any would be most appropriate? One was
recommended to me-BUT THAT WAS NEARLY £500!!!!Could use
it apparently for the video-play thingy. However step for step-how to
make the podcast first! Bye the way the book(s?) are far from
completion for self publishing. For example, editing (AND THAT
MUST BE GOOD apparently) has yet to be done!!So NO tick there
alas! I can’t keep switching from one thing /idea/media to another-I
really am not bright, creative or aware enough!!! I’m finding it pretty
hard work. I mean, for example, a simple (for you good people)
enough thing yiu might think-but me…HA!
I realise your time must be so, so limited and i understand how busy
you are..especially to make a living and build funds etc. So if you
wish to skip this right now -thats fine!!
THANK YOU for getting back to me nevertheless.
VERY good luck with your (and friends) projects Richard. I really
do wish you every success!!! Tera for now
Ps HIGHLY unlikely but if I can be of any service to you…just ask
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• June 21, 2012
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6:16pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
re:schreber: did you speak to one of Anna Jungs (sister)
descendents? Have you actually seen Morritz’s machines yourself?
Zvi Lothane and others may have thought of them as innocuous??eg
Says they’re were no anti-masturbatory contraptions to be found yet.
Mmmm!! Lots of reports about his cross-dressing outside of the
asylums though. A friend says he will email Zvi…any questions you
can think of you have? I REALLY think that using a judge with a
female voice (German) was a stroke of brilliant insight…er…or not??
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• September 9, 2012
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10:00pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
Hi Richard, i’ve been invited to see Shock Head
Soul ….october…looking forward to it!Have you seen it yet? Its
described as a ‘documentary’…mm..wait and see i suppose. Listened
to your Radio Schreber again…the more i listened the more respect I
had for how you did it and the dialogue. The lady judge (from
Australia??) was very clear and her German quite understandable.
PS Soul Murder was an actual legal term used in Germany/Saxony
in Paul Schreber’s day. talk again soon. all the best
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Kevin Zdaniecki
PPS you met one of the Jung family at Sonnestein? Lothane wrote a
little about when he sat down to dinner with Fridolein (adopted
daughter) and her daughter. I don’t know if she’s still
living…doubtful methinks
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• September 11, 2012
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8:19pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
Richard, have you seen any of Artaud’s tecniques used?
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8:21pm
Richard Crow
trick question?
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8:23pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
HeeHee…no ,why do say that? I take it i’m yet again ignorant of
something….
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8:24pm
Richard Crow
just managed to find the italian translation of the memoirs
memoire di un malato di nervi
1974
sounds like a dish
in italy they eat “nerves”
also birds
but maybe not talking birds…
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8:30pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
NERVOUS ITALIAN/s?? Even the English version by McAlpine/
hunter was incorrect (well…according to Lothane)The original so
called higher german version I have’nt tried to read, Its easy to forget
that DPS WAS a good writer(…as well?). But the grundspraak of
birds…was’nt a german ray of….
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8:32pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
But that writing down machine…zuckerberg would be even more
jealous and greedy to get that..hehee
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8:36pm
Richard Crow
you know the one
have not seen shocj=k head soul yet , from what i have seen online i
think i’d hate it…i think only the Bros Quay could make the film of
the book of the man.???
you know the bros quay?
dont you?
yes, that llooks good in the movie trailer , its a bit like cronenberg’s
naked lunch typewriter insect?? no?
only the italians understand the theatre of cruelty
rthats a clue by the way
hehe
in sept i resume work on the demo for the radio schreber cd, i am
looking for an italian voice, hoping and praying to meet a rather
famous still living camp composer in florence…
sonnestein was a scary place , i really wnated to enter the old
church , ruined , but there simply was not enough time when i was
there…
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8:43pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
I’ve taken Hamlet and Faust dialogue and mixed it up…if radioi
schreber as you did it began with the court case…the dialogue
produced by the performance and actors would write itself!! The risk
of driving the actors psychotic is of course a …..blah blah. Maybe
making a couple of Utube trailers or so then see how many hits etc.
Gotta do /publish SOMETHING Richard…its been going on to long.
In defence though the research (Angie Woods. with offers to email
Zvi Lothane, Deleuze&Guitarri ET AL!) PS you must have met
Angela Woods surely…she’s brilliant!!. But the documents (letters,
hospital notes-Niederland) ain’t easy to come by…
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8:45pm
Richard Crow
when i was there i asked zvi if it was possible to visit the rooms
inhabited by schreber , but they were being renovated , everybosy
was too well behaved to pursue further…
yes, angela is great, h-madness blog…yeah you have to get it out!
are you in touch with eric santner? i have his adress somewhere , i
gave him some cd’s
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Kevin Zdaniecki
As things get closer to actually producing something you’re
suggestions, help would be unmissable!!!!!But the rooms he
occuppied were probably vitually physically bare. Yeh I must get it
out…but theres so much…sorry, what madness blog? Is it the hearing
voices thingie that she’s into? I thought narrative was her thing at the
mo. So you didn’t get to see his rooms…surprised they’re still
there…must be his ‘pollutions’….But when I was talking to Morty
(Schatzman) it seemed zvi did’nt think Morritz did’nt traumatise Paul
that much…I DON’T believe IT…Mritz was a deluded pshoticall
depreesed homicidal so and so …well excuse my stigmatization…its
just Santners ideas of his teachings beig a forerunner to Nat Soc
were very clear + the symbolic investiture + the tying in with
Certeau’s Knowledge passing by way of ‘the rotten’…sorry ranting
again…but I really do feel passionate about all this stuff..
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9:05pm
Richard Crow
yes of course, it all adds up but but but…i havent actually seen any of
those moritz machines, not sure exactly where they are, or if they
have been re-created,
by the way i recorded pretty much all of the conference, there was
meant to be a special edition of a journal dedicated to schreber the
zvi was co-editing and he asked all of us to contribute…but i left it
too long to send any “work” for it…shame, would love to see the
issue
i confess i havent read niederland
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9:20pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
When a performance (not de Bords hehee) becomes much closer
your help would be unmissable. I think a weekend workshop would
be too much and I bet that great Ausralian lady (Anna???Voice of
judge-brilliant move there RC) is back in Australia…EXACTLY
neither have I or Morton but they must have been pretty restictive.
Yet his brother probably topped himself due to the late stage
syphillis (such shame on the family)…and Anna Jung seemed qite
happily married to her husband (Judge..surprise, surprise) and wa
sthe only one that seemed to care about Paul, his mother didnt even
ask how he was (eg writing to the Asylum Board) and even his
supposed loving wife Sadina Behr was more tha retiscent to put up
with him again. On the other hand his bellowing miracles, secret
cross dressing, severe moods and possible delusions (still there), 6
miscarriages etc etc must have been a bit to much to take for her.
She was’nt the brightest seed in the bunch and from her letter to Doc
F seemed very childish and depedant (as was the case for so many
women at that time).But back to Pauls subjectivr experiental
phenomology…therin lies the rub!!!!
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9:22pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
I was trying to write my thoughts too quickly…sorry the linguistics
are so terrible..
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• September 12, 2012
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4:37pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
IT HAS TO BE ARTAUDS TECNIQUES!!! I am sure you know of
his work esp Theatre of Cruelty I apologise for bothering you
again…but as far as using this mixture of sound,dress, occupied
space, actor AND audience sort of ‘alarming’ participation is an area
that few of the people I know have experienced-meaning I can’t talk
about with them. So sorry I hope you understand. This mixture
possibly taking place around the audience and Memoirs in which the
actors MUST believe!!!! Tp produce a sort of truly shocking
experience for all in this mixed undefined architecture where any
message has to lie between the thoughts + words of the memoirs/
faustian dialogue/appeal court words to fight his taalege and the
physicality (eg his wish to cross dress +experience erotica as a
woman )
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5:32pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
I had written more but it suddenly vanished…sorry I won’t bother
you again until I’ve got something concrete to hear (podcast) or/and
see (U tube trailer) Apologies to disturb you once more…..
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• November 15, 2012
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11:14am
Kevin Zdaniecki
Have a great birthday Richard!!
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• November 16, 2012
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9:25pm
Richard Crow
do you have a copy of shock head soul , can swap for Dark City
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9:42pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
What? Swapsees? 1) Dark City’s on youtube (full movie) ..seen and
enjoyed it 2) sorry have’nt got a copy of shock head soul…got an
invite to see it this weekend followed by a discussion with Simon
Pommel, Helen Taylor R., Sabbadinni (analyst-played in it I
THINK?), and with my schreberian ‘expert’ friend (and I suppose me
if wasted people’s time and joined in from the audience). But i’ll see
if there are copies available if so i’ll get you one if you want or we
could swapsees with some other movie you’ve got…er….i’ll write up
about it and how it went etc…if your interested in any way……
What you do for you bday Richard? Good time?
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10:44pm
Richard Crow
well now,you should record the discussion after, i havent seen the
film hence the request, and i dont think i’ll like it…but you never
know.. glad you liked Dark City , of course its better on the dark
screen, i think the only ‘film makers’ that could enter into the
schreberian symphony would be the bros quay (circa institute
benjamenta) and /or Jan Svankmayer , how is your ‘play’ going?
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Richard Crow
or cronenberg of course
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• November 20, 2012
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12:24am
Kevin Zdaniecki
It was interseting. Simon and the others and their persectives oa so
called outsider art. Alot of work went into it especially the Sputnik
effect-the writing down machine. Modeled on The Malling ??
typewriter that even Nietzsche used. Ther are 50 still left today?I
tried talking to Simon about the funding-apparently came from the
WElcome Trust for a large part anyway. Helen (Robinson) told me
to try Amazon for a copy and I learnt a BVD will be out Dec
12th…share costs or something. I agree with you I saw a few holes I
could pick in it. I asked what he/we wanted from schreber really……..
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12:26am
Richard Crow
no bootleg then
haha
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12:27am
Kevin Zdaniecki
I WISH but………….
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12:27am
Richard Crow
i am working data bases tonight so cnt really chat
but
my fb posts are me taking the air really
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12:28am
Kevin Zdaniecki
ok take care..want to share one of you posts (reggae)..ok?
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12:29am
Richard Crow
thinking that you cant hearself speaking in pubs these days…friend
birthday , old men drinking pubs sad
haha
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12:30am
Kevin Zdaniecki
I’ve little time for Fbk stuff now…very late at nite at the mo..too
busy…
Is’nt twitter a better stepping stone?
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Richard Crow
yeh, next year i”leave and migrate to a page
yeah suppose so
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Kevin Zdaniecki
or australia…old men in pubs! Heeeeeeee
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Richard Crow
been there done that
it all depends on whose buying
i will return to the schreber material in dec , demo for cd release,
will let you know…
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Kevin Zdaniecki
Sent the T shitt back!… Yeh exactly it really does depend on whose
interested! Working on the stage stuff in 2/3 weeks as a taster
maybe?The books OK!!! Goes a gaiinst the psychiatic.diagnostic
grain (politics of experience etc. A give away….
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• December 7, 2012
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8:29pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
I really recommend Eric Santner’s My Private Germany. HE IS
BRILLIANT!!!!
What did ya think of Fuske’s (spelling?) body boundary presentation
at Sonnestein. I might try to get a copy of Shock Head Soul…if I
manage it I’ll let ya know..
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• December 12, 2012
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12:16pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
rEALLY WOULD/MUST TALK TO YOU ABOUT THE sCREBER
PERFOERMANE rICHARD…when?????
tHINGS ARE MOVING !!!
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• December 17, 2012
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7:40pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
EXCELLENT!!! Richard.Just listened to you and Anna Sheer
‘voices’ broadcat-to be presented in Coventry? It really fits with my/
our work which essentially places Daniel Paul in his appeal trial-
READING HIS MEMOIRS as his defence-a lot more complicated
than that. Bringig ‘politics of the fragment’ to the forefront.( Could
we use the ‘hospital’ at Coventry?)…I can see the problems with that
already….
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Richard Crow
kevin, your getting confused…again(!) no, i no longer have access to
the hospital its been demolished…good luck with what ever it is your
up to…
julian p. hobbs film is now online in its entirety , i am assumimg you
have seen it….?
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Richard Crow
MeofmyNerIll
http://www.youtube.comMemoirs of my nervous illness
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Kevin Zdaniecki
Thanks Richard. Yep, seen it some time ago. I thought it was
good…but did.nt emphasise enough important issues. Love story
with sabina…TICK. The real persuton by dear ‘ol Morritz (even via
Fleichig treatment)..TICK. Voluptousness/jouissance/
sexuality…TICK Relationship of Morritz to Action T4…unclear.
Symptom representation/MEANING (esp. of his delusions…very
poor. The all important writing down machine…not mentioned! That
he was the subject of God the Father’s abuse not clarified.
Sonnestein,apart from referral to Weber, …not elaborated!
Regression of neurosciance/ psychiatry/psychoanaysis today to 100
yrs ago not made cleat. Nothing changing in diagnostics over 100
years or so not really clarified.(or his psychotic experience eg
fleeting impoverished beings called humans, the echolalia, his
catatonic experience. My confusion ? heheee…yeh without doubt
exists!!!!! Ps So the venue is in Italy?? Sounds great!!
Luck and help I NEVER refuse. NB But that sound recording/your
‘artistic’ approach fits perfectly with my/our production!!!It’s hoped
it will emphasize Deleuze/Guatarri (eg Anti-Oedipus)/Laing and anti
pychiatry/eg nietzschian anti-theology (good)views and a stand point
of such madness being in large a product of mad families, society
and micro- and macro- politics etc The stuff behind the household
totalitarianism (+despotic control)that Schreber grew up in (and
now….(with luck…enter the iconic rebel HA!) The film did not even
really touch on false/ ‘unfalse’ sanity and the relationships of the
‘rotten’ symbolic investiture of institutions which certainly triggered
Daniel Paul’s mad experieces (apart from that inherent in losing the
Reichstag elections!)
So using the narrative of the Memories, sound and photoghraphic art
etc etc is what I’ve been working on and what it is all about. Did’t
Know exactly how much time this would take!! Sorry…. all of this is
probably boring for you Richard But I have passion for it……anyway
take care and good luck with whatever endeavours you choose…Tera
In Memory of Kevin Zdaniecki
July 23, 2018
Friend
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• December 22, 2012
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1:53pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
Visual and performance artists coming over from France next week.
International expert-Morty S who i know as friend and professional
colleague willing to give time/advice. He knows Zvi (Lothane) et al
and can email for input or whatever! Have an actor who wishes to
play Schreber. Ist scene at trial with slow mo hallucinatory voices
sound crafted if you’re willing!!! Perhaps an overnight workshop
project. Begiining scene for trailer (or even work shop) in the closed
rooms of all the patients bellowing (people heard but not seen). With
Jewish symbolism eg dead roses or whatever with someone playing
Wagner (OR GIOVANI HA!). Staged with court judges talking to
him while he reads his text out in his defence and desperation of his
tutelage being rescinded. (in German??-the judges not the text) The
voices could be like being in a cafe. Simon (pummels) idea of
elaborating on the sputnik effect but when I talked to him he seemed
to voice other ideas of this Writing Down Machine. BUT all in all
the other issues symbolic investiure failing trigging the first illness,
his fathers child rearing methods correspondin to Paul’s delusional
content, the apparent irrelevance of Lacans signifier etc etc, Freuds
own identification EVEN Certeau’s ideas, by what I believe you also
called, instiute of rot. The forerunner of a pure aryan race (mijn
kampf) and the politics of the fragments within the text can be so
clearly shown using various medias. Time will limit ALL the
offshoots and complexities!! I don’t know how long the French
artists will be around…are you interested in meeting of us all for a
chat?? Just been told one possible very suitable venue the NHS will
not allow us to use or are planning to sell it on. Given the time frame
your input and possible help would be invaluable My email..
kzclipsy@gmail.com…a fairly prompt respone would be more than
appreciated or tips…whatever! I do understand how busy you must
be right now but if you have’nt bored with Schreberianism please
condider it at least. THANKS Richard…
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Richard Crow
sounds intriguing, yes i am super busy as always…let me know how
it goes, seasons greetings
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• December 22, 2012
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9:03pm
Kevin Zdaniecki
it is!! thanks Richard most certainly let you know how its going or
the probs (obstacles, fall in our/my enthusiasm/energy/ideas etc….if
thats ok) Seasons greetings back
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